Comment on Upcoming changes to kudos

  1. Of course, as a writer, the pinacle of comments are the lengthy/detailed ones, but I'll still take "I like this story, please update" or "this is great" over a kudos any day of the week. At least the reader took the time and made the effort to engage with the author rather than just clicking on a button (which is, in my eyes, a lot more akin to an act of mass consumption than leaving a comment, no matter how short it is). Comments help identifying readers, and having the habit of commenting (even if it's just to say "nice, more please") usually leads readers to write longer comments as time goes by. And, which I noticed on on-going multichapters fic's, someone who comments "nice"/"I liked it" each chapter will get noticed by the author (especially if the fic doesn't have a lot of comments), and the author will end up waiting for that message, no matter how short it is.
    Tl;dr: leaving a comment, no matter its length, reassures the author on the fact there are people reading and enjoying the story, and engaging with it. Especially on stories that do not have a lot of comments, each one is treasured, even if it's just saying "this is great!" (even moreso, I would argue). And if you feel like saying "this is great!" is too short, you can always try something like "I had a great time reading this, thank you for sharing it!"?
    (Personally, but I'm probably a bit radical on that, I wish the kudos function would simply disappear, but I think a significant amount of people would probably riot at that. I would be very against the possibility of leaving multiple kudos per fics for the reasons you brought up.)

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    1. This is how I feel on it. A couple of my stories do have people that comment every chapter and if they don't comment, I'm sitting here like, "So...I hope you're okay. Where are you? T_T" I'm also more willing to engage/chat with those readers too since it's obvious they like my work.

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      1. 👆 This! Especially worrying about your regular readers who do not comment on a chapter, and you're even happier when it turns out they were 'just' late. And indeed, it's easier to engage/chat with those readers, because their comments show they like your work and are willing to engage with it.

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        1. Definitely agree with these- the regular commenters give me something to look forward to during the day since I usually update in the mornings, and it’s the best feeling to open a comment email and see that it’s them again, even if it’s just a simple comment. The regulars, and even one-off comment leavers, make it feel a lot more personal and even rewarding than kudos (even though kudos are great, and I don’t want to see them go anytime soon).

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          1. 👆 Exactly. The comments make it more personal in my opinion, and it's fun to engage with people over stories you're writing.

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    2. Green signpost saying Adopt-a-Highway: Butterflies & Rainbows

      I know that you and a number of other authors feel this way, but I also know that a number of authors feel annoyed by such comments. So my point is, if I'm going to comment, I want to know that the author is not going to be annoyed at me and I only am very certain of that if I'm leaving a comment that has more detail—or if the author actually says in the author note "I love all happy comments, no matter how short!" in the notes at the bottom. This is a line in the sand for me because I don't participate in fandom to feel self conscious every time I say something, unaware if I'm annoying someone or not.

      And it doesn't matter that people say that authors should appreciate every comment or something because not every person is the same. I have seen many people express that the "love this plz update" comments bother them, and I myself have some fanfiction I've written which I'll never post because I would find it awkward to get any comments on it. That's the tricky thing with comment norms in fandom spaces, not everyone agrees with them.

      (This is pretty much a digression, but I just wanted to explain where I'm coming from.)

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      1. Oh, I understand your reticence a lot better now, thank you for having taken the time to explain! I am quite sorry some authors made you feel like your comments were unwelcome or annoying, but I'm glad it didn't entirely kill down your drive to leave comments. I hope you're still having a good time in fandom nonetheless!
        The only kind of comment I disapprove of is the "update"/"please update" kind, which is very demanding and not in the exchange at all, at least to my eyes. Something along the lines of "love this plz update" at least doesn't treat the author like a writing machine, but I can understand why it annoys certain people. As you said, not everyone is the same, and writers don't react the same way at being asked to update (hell, the same person won't necessarily react the same way depending on how they're feeling, what's happening in their life, their mood, and so on).
        As for your fic, would you mind explaining me while you would find awkward to get comments on it? I myself wrote some fics that were very much for my own please/self-interest, and I've been very (happily) surprised to find people to appreciate them. Unless you deem them to be too personal?

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        1. Green signpost saying Adopt-a-Highway: Butterflies & Rainbows

          With the fic, it's mainly because I've had people remark before about things they like or how I've characterized [Person A] so well as [character trait], and none of it was intentional/some of that contradicted what I was trying to do with the story, and then I just feel very awkward. I wouldn't want to correct them, but just accepting what they said without clarifying that they're reading into something which I didn't intend/may not be there feels very rude and like a downer. I don't have a problem with people asking questions, or with discussing my fic with friends, but with random readers on the internet in the comments of the fic getting "the wrong"/an unintended interpretation, it can be absolutely awkward. I guess it's just, whenever you show a creative work that you're proud of to others there's to some degree death of the author, and for some fic, I'm not ready for conversations stemming from that which the open internet entails. :P

          So I'd rather there be an option to turn off people's ability to leave comments, so that people could read it however they wanted and I wouldn't have to think about it after putting it up, but since there isn't I keep it out of more public spaces like AO3.

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          1. Aw, okay! Well, there is always the option of moderating comments before they're published (basically you have to approve them for them to be published, or else you can choose to delete them and none will be the wiser), but I don't think it's possible to turn off the possibility to leave comments.
            I know how it gets about unplanned/unintentional reading of the story. Sometimes you can play along and sometimes not, but saying "this isn't what I had in mind when I wrote it, but knowing that you read it that way was very interesting" can be helpful. Sometimes. Depending on the situation ^^". Posting a fic out in the open does require to take a leap of faith though, so I understand why you're hesitant about it!

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        I won't say authors should appreciate all comments—like, some sorts of comments are flat out rude, and nobody ought to be expected to appreciate people being rude to them—but authors certainly shouldn't tell potential commenters they don't appreciate comments that simply aren't as effusively detailed as the author would like to see.

        Not least because if someone is discouraged from commenting generally, they are also discouraged from leaving the five-hundred-word book report comments that are apparently the only acceptable sort of comment to some people.

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