Comment on Upcoming changes to kudos

  1. Just leave a comment that says '+1 kudos'. Copy and paste. Use an incognito window to make it anonymous so people don't know it's you. I have anxiety too, there are workarounds and ways to work with it that also mean that ao3 can continue to function.

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    1. This doesn't feature in stats, which you can sort by to rank fics.

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      1. purple flowers

        Au contraire, you can sort by comments as easily as you can by kudos. Another option is to hit the bookmark button; people can sort by that stat, too, and also maybe find the fic from seeing your bookmark.

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        1. Still doesn't feature in the kudos stats which most people seem to use to check for well-regarded fics. You can artificially inflate comments - intentionally or otherwise.

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          1. purple flowers

            The point being that not being able to artificially inflate kudos is a good thing, right?

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            1. Obviously.

              I respond with thanks for each comment I receive - this would suggest double the number of comments. Courtesy and gratitude (or back and forth discussion), therefore, results in suggestion of double the comments actually received.

              Last Edited Thu 12 Mar 2020 12:39PM EDT

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              1. purple flowers

                I’m glad we’re in agreement! This is a great bugfix AO3 is implementing to make the kudos statistic more fair for everyone.

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          2. made by lostgirl  (lostgirlslair on LJ)

            "Most" people? Some people.

            A lot of kudos means *nothing*--utter garbage gets a lot of kudos. There are many people who kudos every single fic they read, so that tells you ZERO about fic quality.

            I mean, if all you want is "this fic hits all the currently trendy tropes" then I guess.

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            1. Honestly, friend, thank you for saying this. <3

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      2. It does, you can also sort by amount of comments, or bookmarks, which is another way to give love to authors. I'm sorry, but this whole thing is a non-issue.

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        1. It might be in your opinion.

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          1. It's a non-issue in the opinion of anyone who deserves to be taken seriously on the issue.

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            1. What a wise and helpful contribution by someone without the nerve to log in to say it!

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              1. made by lostgirl  (lostgirlslair on LJ)

                I'm logged in, and I'll agree with them!

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        2. I completely agree! I always sort by bookmarks when searching; not to cheapen kudos, they're great, but bookmarking means you want to remember that story, you want to come back to that story. Kind of like buying a book you've already read from the library. And really, while kudos and bookmarks show love, you could theoritically just write "wtf man" in a comment :D

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          1. blooming evening primrose

            "wtf man" without anything else can be perceived as negative, so this is maybe not the best example ;)

            But I completely agree with the rest of cour comment! :)

            Last Edited Sun 15 Mar 2020 05:03AM EDT

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            1. yeah, i figured, it was actually intended to show that -- like, you don't kudo or bookmark works you don't like, but technically you could leave a comment on something you don't like, though i'm not sure that's a productive use of anyone's time, except if the author specifically asked for criticism (and i'm assuming most authors would delete rude ones anyway.) and there's some lovely discussion going on in the comments sometimes, though i'm not sure how replies are counted :D so it's maybe not the most reliable way of sorting works. if you only want to read. it might come in handy if someone wanted to measure how active each fandom is, like, hits to comments (comments to hits?) ratio :D

              Last Edited Sun 15 Mar 2020 03:59PM EDT

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              1. blooming evening primrose

                Ah, I misunderstood! I read your first comment in the same vain as all the "when you want to leave more kudos you could just write a comment with 'kudos'/'I like this!' etc. Now, when I re-read it, I realized that wasn't what you meant :D

                And I actually have seen "wtf man" comments...

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          2. Glad to see I'm not the only one! I figure also that since bookmarking takes more effort in comparison to kudos, the more people putting in that effort then the more that they like it.

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    2. This sounds like a good idea. However, not all writers are nice.

      Once, I commented “I really like this story”. The writer’s response: “Be specific and tell me what you like about it. Otherwise, you’re just taking up space in the comments”.

      So, I don’t think you can blame people for having anxiety to comment. And even “kudos” or “I like it” Is not enough for some writers.

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      1. I'm not blaming people for their anxiety, and if it came off that way then I apologise, I didn't mean it. All I meant was that there are ways around anxiety and to work with it.

        That author sounds like a dick, but if you want to show support to authors outside of kudosing, then a comment or bookmarking is going to have to be it. It's an unfortunate fact of life that people can be assholes and thankfully, they're in the minority and you cannot let them from stopping you showing support to authors if that's what you want to do.

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      2. I think I'd have just said "No. Deal with it." to somebody that rude.

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      3. I'm sorry that person was rude to you. They were out of line. Maybe it would be helpful to check the author's existing replies to comments so you know for sure they'll be gracious? I know some authors don't reply to any comments at all, so this suggestion probably isn't helpful for their fics, but it would hopefully be a good indicator with others. I feel as though most authors are extremely grateful for the comments they receive, but I know that it can be hard to move past negative experiences.

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        I’m sorry that author was rude to you; there’s really no call for that. They’re probably rude in all their interactions in life.

        I hope that encounter doesn’t put you off commenting in general, though: most people love hearing that you enjoyed something they created.

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      5. Really? Even if they do want you to be specific, a "thanks, what did you like the most" is better. But sometimes, kudos are enough.

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