Comment on Important changes to adding work, chapter, and series co-creators

  1. This (removing co-creators from one's works) sounds inherently problematic, because it can be abused to remove credit for and control over a work from a person who at some point significantly contributed to it but later fell out with their co-creator. Which is super unfair and I would call that partial plagiarism. I'm sure there are some situations where it could be legitimate, but that would require tracking each person's contributions, and taking into account how they came to be co-creators in the first place.

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    1. blooming evening primrose

      I second this.

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    2. If the issue is accidental addition of someone as cocreator or someone wanting to disassociate with a work they were cocreating, that could potentially be remedied by allowing individual authors to remove themselves from existing works. Kind of like orphaning a work, except the other author(s) would remain.

      But yes, allowing authors to remove each-other would create a new avenue for abuse that would be unfair to expect the site to moderate.

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      1. Katharine Hepburn as Eleanor of Aquitane in The Lion In Winter

        It's already possible for users to remove themselves from co-created works. It's a button that appears on the Edit page of any work with more than one creator - "Remove Me as Co-Creator". One click and it's done!

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        1. Does the remaining author get a choice between being named as sole creator and sharing cocreatorship with an orphan account? Because I think some people, especially if they contributed like 30-40% and would have done some things very differently but for the co-creator, might want to preserve a work and stay associated with it, but wouldn't want people to think it's 100% theirs...

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          1. The easiest fix for this, I think, is the same one they mentioned in the update notes: just include an attribution to the other author in the Notes section, OR, if the co-creator removed themselves because they don't want to be associated with the work, leave a note saying the work was a joint project (and politely decline to name with whom) and that's why certain things are/turn out they way they are.

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      2. It is already possible for an author to remove themselves from a work, leaving the other author.

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    3. Completely agree

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    4. I think that could be fixed by having a ‘previous co-creators’ section or something like it so that you can remove co-creaters, but they can still have credit. And if the co-creator could *choose* to remove their name then it wouldn’t be plagiarism because they are willingly giving up the credit.

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      1. blooming evening primrose

        Users already can remove themselves as co-creators.

        And if someone does, or rejects/doesn't reply to the invitation to be listed as co-creator in the work's header/blurb, the remaining creator(s) can still give them credit in the work's notes (same as you would to with a co-creator who has no AO3 account). No need for a 'previous co-creator' field.

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