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ConstanceM
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The Times of London reported this morning that Elena Feller died yesterday at the age of 77. The article mostly talks about Feller's work as a visual artist and, later, philanthropist, but as many of you know, Feller was also the inheritor of Leonard Salby's belongings! I don't know who they will pass to now -- if anyone else have any insight here, I'd be very curious! -- but there's at least the possibility that we may get to see some of Salby's unpublished notes, diagrams, drawings, marginalia, etc. sometime soon.
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JimWind
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Interesting! Nice find, ConstanceM :D

Although . . . are we sure this is "our" Elena Feller? She's British, yeah, and it's not the most common name, but Google Search turns up a number of different Elena Fellers, and I just don't want us to get our hopes up prematurely, y'know?
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ConstanceM
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JimWind wrote:
Interesting! Nice find, ConstanceM :D
Thanks!
JimWind wrote:
Although . . . are we sure this is "our" Elena Feller? She's British, yeah, and it's not the most common name, but Google Search turns up a number of different Elena Fellers, and I just don't want us to get our hopes up prematurely, y'know?
This is worth asking, but I'm certain it's "our" Feller. British, visual artist, born in 1927, and stated to be the child of Frank and Nancy Feller. (Nancy Feller, nee Salby, was LS' sister.)
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Verrry interesting~ Thanks for posting <3

Am I making this up, or is Marsh related to this chick? I remember him bragging about his ~special insider Salby connections~ at one pt. and I'm not sure who else it could be? If not, forgive me, my memory sucks ^_^;;
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Sexologian wrote:
Am I making this up, or is Marsh related to this chick?
They're definitely related; that's how we got our hands on TNC. IIRC, she's Marsh's aunt? He told us about meeting her at a family gathering once, and I remember he called her "Aunt Wrath" as a joke because she started some sort of altercation. I'll PM him. Interesting news!
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I hope Marsh can tell us aaaaaall about "Aunt Wrath" ^_~

Seriously I do I wonder whether she inspired anyone in CC. Would be fun if Marsh almost "knew" a CC character, very "mirror-like"~!
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metamarsh
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Okay guys here's the deal.

First, thanks Err for sending me a PM. My family isn't that close to the British side of the family anymore so I actually heard about it from the Cafe first and THEN told my dad about it. Weird, huh :P

Yeah, Elena was my aunt, my uncle's wife, on my dad's side. She was also LS' niece, the daughter of his sister Nancy Salby. Nancy died before LS and LS didn't write a will so Elena got all of LS' stuff.

I've already told you guys about this stuff a few times but I can never miss an opportunity to brag about my LS connections ;) I never knew LS and Nancy died before I was born, but I used to see Aunt Elena and Uncle Peter (my dad's bro) a lot when I was little. Uncle Peter died when I was 5 (I think) but Aunt Elena kept coming.

They were nice to me as a kid, but yeah, one Christmas we got together and Elena and my dad had some giant shouting argument I didn't understand, and we didn't see them after that. I think I was maybe 14 at the time? It was a few years after LS died so who knows, that could have had something to do with it? I don't think Aunt Elena and LS were that close near the end though.

I never quite got the Fellers' relationship to LS. It always seemed like dad was a lot prouder of having a famous writer in the family than they were? He knew LS, not that well, but he knew him, and we has signed copies of all the CC books in the house. Dad read them to me when I was a kid. He and Elena would talk about CC and LS sometimes, but he always seemed more into it than she was. She was nice, though. Until that argument.

Anyway, when I told my dad about Aunt Elena dying, it was pretty awkward, because I could tell he wanted to seem sad because she was family but he was clearly excited about something, and was trying to hide it. He made some excuse and went off to his room, and a few hours later, he came down telling me he'd called my uncle James, his other brother, and they talked about Elena, and OK HERE'S THE PART YOU GUYS WILL CARE ABOUT it turns out Elena left her stuff to James, who still lives in England and has been on good terms with Elena all along. James is a solid old dude but he hates reading so he's never cared about CC at all.

So of course my dad asked if James could send him all of LS' old stuff and James was like, of course, it'll be great to get this crap out of my house.

So ASSUMING nothing else comes up and we manage to figure out how to ship some delicate papers and stuff across the Atlantic, dad and I will have our hands on LS' old papers and books. MEANING: all the notes, all the diagrams, all the original manuscripts including the full original Caves (Dad got Elena to scan it back in 95 but who knows if she did it right), all of LS' books with his annotations. It's gonna be a goldmine. If we get it, I'll try to work on scanning as much of it as possible and sending it to you guys.

I am so fucking excited.
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ConstanceM
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Wow. Marsh, that is wonderful! I can't wait to see what kinds of stuff you guys find.

You guys know I'm not a big fan of how the series ended (even before TNC, I mean), and of course I'll be hoping there's something in there that . . . at least gives me some insight into what LS was thinking. But even if I don't get my wish, just getting more glimpses into how LS worked would be fascinating.

I'm excited too. :D

(P.S. Have you ever considered inviting your dad to join the Cafe? He sounds like one of us. ;)
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metamarsh
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ConstanceM wrote:
(P.S. Have you ever considered inviting your dad to join the Cafe? He sounds like one of us. ;)
Haha, he knows I post here but he's a technophobe. He won't use a computer unless he absolutely has to, and then I have to walk him through it. I wish you guys could meet him, though. He's a cool guy and he does love CC.
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Wow. Mixed feelings!

On the one hand, I am salivating about the idea that we are (possibly) going to have access to this stuff. I am worried it'll close down some of my theories, but then more CC material is always better. I've re-read the books so many times, and even read over half of TNC; having something truly new will be a such breath of fresh air, even if it's just a few scraps of info.

On the other hand . . . okay, deep breath. Obviously, Marsh and I have not been getting along so well lately. And, to be honest, I'm worried that this is going to make things even worse. There's the possibility that these materials will answer all our questions about TNC. The possibility that every Schrödinger's Cat in the Seeking Continuity threads will get collapsed to alive or dead.

What if, for the most part, I'm right? Well, of course I'll be happy. I'd feel bad for Marsh, though. But the other possibility is worse: what if Marsh is right? Because, Marsh, all this information is coming from you. You are our only source. Neither of us can deny that we're highly invested in Seeking Continuity now. If you start sending us "new Salby documents" that refute all of my theories, I will be skeptical. Not because I think you're a liar, not because I think it's at all likely you'd fabricate documents. (I wish I knew how to stress this more, to the point that there'd be no doubt left, but I don't.) But because, as someone who cares deeply about understanding Chesscourt, I will always have some lingering doubt about any material I receive from a source with his own interests.

I have the books in front of me. I have TNC on my computer (scanned by Elena, sent to us by you, but that was all before Seeking Continuity, of course). I want to have these new materials in my possession in the same way.

Do you think it's possible I could look at them with my own eyes? That we all could, maybe? I know that's asking a favor from someone I haven't exactly been very nice to lately. But maybe this is the way forward for us. Get together, talk without the screen between us, and see what Salby left behind, with our own eyes, all at once.

Besides, I'd love to meet you guys. And Marsh's dad, too.
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